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    Nokia Lumia 1020: install Camera Lumia App after december 2019?

    Hi all,
    a week ago I got a Lumia 1020 to try its celebrated camera. The phone has been reset to W8.1M version 8.10.14234.375 (Cyan) firmware 3051.50009.1451.1005. In the phone I could not find the Lumia Camera App but only the standard Windows Camera App which has many limitations (no raw file, no manual settings etc.).
    I want to use a Lumia Camera App but the online store since december doesn't work anymore, I guess I have two options:
    1. install in some way the Lumia Camera App for W8.1M
    2. update to W10M and install a Lumia Camera App for W10M

    Since I am only interested in the camera feature, I think the first option is better: I have read that with W10M the phone's performance is slower.
    I have already tried to install a Lumia Camera App for W8.1 ("Lumia Camera 4.8.1.1.xap" file), with the Microsoft tools: unlock with PhoneReg.exe and AppDeploy.exe for W8.1 without success. Basically I cannot even unlock the phone with PhoneReg.exe. The error says that I don't have correct credentials even If I do have a valid Windows Developer Account and I have read that since December 2019 the server is not working anymore and It is not possible to even register the phone for deploy.
    I need some help to install a Lumia Camera app.
    I have read here a similar question: Upgrading Nokia Lumia 1020 to Windows 10 &
    but I don't want to upgrade to Win 10 if possible.
    Thanks a lot for any suggestions!
    Geändert von Horlac (12.01.2020 um 11:03 Uhr) Grund: syntax correction

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    Hi there.
    I also have a 1020, which still runs with WP8.1 because of the history with the camera app.
    Now I do not quite understand why the Lumia camera app is not there with you?
    This is a standard app.
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    Hi and thanks for the quick help!
    I don't know why the Lumia Camera is not installed. I guess it was erased with the factory reset. If you read Upgrading Nokia Lumia 1020 to Windows 10 & Project Astoria questions

    nautilus in his last post writes that his Lumia has same issue.

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    Nokia Lumia 1020: install Camera Lumia App after december 2019?

    Well... you‘re right so far, the Store seems to be deactivated for WP8.1 and the Windows Developer Registration has to be done via browser, as far as I know.
    But, I am not quite sure, it‘s long ago, if I am right, the Developer Modus in WP7 and WP8 has to be paid (19,-$ per Account)...

    Edith:
    Okay, correction, it seems the developer unlock could be done via WP8 / WP8.1 SDK in past, but according following post all ways to unlock WP8.1 Phones
    seems to be closed. https://forum.xda-developers.com/win...a-730-t3765052

    If that`s correct, we`re done if you want to stay on WP8.1 and no Upgrade to W10m...

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    Zitat Zitat von Horlac Beitrag anzeigen
    If you read Upgrading Nokia Lumia 1020 to Windows 10 & Project Astoria questions

    nautilus in his last post writes that his Lumia has same issue.
    Nautilus has upgraded from Windows Phone 8.1 to Windows 10 Mobile and therefore the Lumia camera app was gone or was replaced by the Microsoft camera app.
    But you always stayed with WP8.1 or?
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    Hi,
    yes I paid 19 Euro for a new developer account and the Phone Registration tool, which comes with SDK W8.1, is not working anymore.
    So the only option is to upgrade to W10M. What is the suggested method? Is it via the "P hone Updater" tool developed by expert user tourniquet, right ? And will the online store fully work for W10M after?
    Thanks for your great help!

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    I think so. I got the phone with installed W8.1M. The previous owner told me that he just did a factory reset.

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    Hallo Horlac!

    Where should you go, WP8.1 or Win10M?
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    I'd prefer to remain W8.1M but it seems not an option. I was wandering: could the Lumia Camera be included with W8.1M + Denim update and not maybe with W8.1M Cyan?

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    OK in 8.10.14226.359 = Denim the Lumia Camera is included. But I don't know which version. You also need 8.10.14226.359 for unlock and root access with WPI. The developer stories are unlocked with root access. So 19 € for free. You're a little bit too fast. Take it a little bit slower.
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    If you cannot find the Lumia Camera in 8.10.14226.359, you can use this * .xap. For the deployment, you use the deployer from SDK 8.1. To do this, you must first perform root access.

    Lumia Camera 4.10.0.6.xap

    https://1drv.ms/u/s!Amb-cFOLoAQ7iTSZCn_LzmWLOTFZ
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    Thank you for the Lumia Camera link!
    And yes I know that I have very little patience! )
    By the way you are right that Lumia Camera was included in the Denim update:
    https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/mobiledevices/forum/all/full-of-features-lumia-denim-update/42661f3c -c8cd-491a-9184-c8b3c7ae0fef and here they also write that it replaced Nokia Camera which I don't have either!
    I don't understand one thing: I have W8.1M version 8.10.14234.375 (Cyan) and you wrote that Denim is version 8.10.14226.359. But why is the version number less than cyan? I thought that denim came after cyan.
    Anyway given that
    the online update support is discontinued, how can I install W8.1M Denim?
    Thanks for your great help!


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    Zitat Zitat von Horlac Beitrag anzeigen
    Thank you for the Lumia Camera link!
    And yes I know that I have very little patience! )
    By the way you are right that Lumia Camera was included in the Denim update:
    https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/mobiledevices/forum/all/full-of-features-lumia-denim-update/42661f3c -c8cd-491a-9184-c8b3c7ae0fef and here they also write that it replaced Nokia Camera which I don't have either!
    I don't understand one thing: I have W8.1M version 8.10.14234.375 (Cyan) and you wrote that Denim is version 8.10.14226.359. But why is the version number less than cyan? I thought that denim came after cyan.
    Anyway given that
    the online update support is discontinued, how can I install W8.1M Denim?
    Thanks for your great help!

    Hm! Which ROM did you use?
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    You can also use unlock and root access with 8.10.14234.375. The denim update is done via the app store. The app store for 8 / 8.1 no longer works.
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    Zitat Zitat von Klaus1979 Beitrag anzeigen
    Hm! Which ROM did you use?
    ROM is RM-875_eu_italy_237
    And WDRT says that my firmware is 3051.50009.1451.1005 and that it is newer than the one available to download which is 3051.50009.1424.0004

    Zitat Zitat von Klaus1979 Beitrag anzeigen
    You can also use unlock and root access with 8.10.14234.375. The denim update is done via the app store. The app store for 8 / 8.1 no longer works.
    Ok thanks, so I will try the Windows Phone Internals.

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    Zitat Zitat von Horlac Beitrag anzeigen
    ROM is RM-875_eu_italy_237
    And WDRT says that my firmware is 3051.50009.1451.1005 and that it is newer than the one available to download which is 3051.50009.1424.0004


    Ok thanks, so I will try the Windows Phone Internals.

    Aha, directly with WDTR. I can't find 3051.50009.1451.1005, but you can have a look yourself.

    https://www.lumiafirmware.com/model/RM-875

    Take a look at Getting started in WPI. You can see which builds are supported for which boot loader.
    skaarj80 hat sich bedankt.
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    Still studying WPInternals ... I noticed a thing that scares me a little: WPInternals says my phone is

    ROM is RM-875_eu_italy_237

    product code: 059T750
    firmware 3051.50009.1451.1005

    but from lumiafirmware for the given product code I could find only this:


    PackageTitle: RM-875 VAR EURO IT CV BLACK
    Product Code: 059T750
    manufacturerHardwareModel: RM-875
    Last Firmware: 3051.50009.1424.0004


    With different package and fimware codes, I hope that the emergency files will work as well. I also haven't still found anywhere the " Emergency Download Driver" .msi package that the section "Getting started says it is necessary to run the procedure.

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    It's a little bit spooky, but WDRT and WPI read the partition for the device data. If WDRT and WPI both say it's 059T750, it's 059T750 too. Test it, if it doesn't work, you can restore it with WDRT.

    Good luck!

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    You can use the Emergency Files from WDRT download.
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    I have successfully unlocked the phone. Before I went to the Download section of WPI to let the tool download the FFU file. I used the emergency files from lumiafirmware.
    Instead the Root access went wrong. It was hanging while rebooting phone to Mass storage mode. A message said that "Switching to Mass Storage mode should take about 10 seconds. The phone shoud be unlocked using an Engineering SBL3 to enable Mass Storage mode." Following instruction to reboot PC and soft reset the phone.
    I passed the same FFU file while unlocking also for SBL3.
    Now I am stuck here

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